What happened to Internet Coaches?

For a while I had a series on internet coaches, and it was drawing a whole lot of interest. A that time there were several excellent internet coaches around. Of course you had to pay for most of their trainings, but when you want something positive in your life it can be worth it. It seems when you are going to do something that is not totally main-stream, like attempt making money using the internet, you run into a lot of people who will tell you why you will fail. You will also run into a lot of people who will sell you courses.

There is a trap you can fall into of buying courses. There are two schools of thought on this one. First, there is the one of whatever you buy is worth it (the people selling the courses will say that). I have learned something from every course I have purchased. However some of them are over priced.

Now there are a lot of courses for $7. They are $7 until you turn the page and then you get more and more offers and an endless stream of emails. However that is another subject.

Of the coaches I endorsed a while ago, some are still around. Some are doing other things.

Chris Lang is still around and can be found on Google Plus and on his websites. I will be adding more about Chris Lang. He is still honest! He is still giving members to his programs great value, and you can learn a lot from him but following him over on Google Plus. He does not do Facebook much any more as far as I know, but I do not show up on Facebook that much any more either.

The Coaching Club I belonged to closed quite a while ago. It was a shame because the idea was great. It was a group of like minded people with a whole lot of positive material to share. The library was huge and membership was affordable. You could access a lot of great material.

The group I taught blogging for is still around. It went through some difficult times, as members of the group seemed to all get hit with family emergencies around the same time.

There are new programs out there for coaching, and I thought I found something affordable and good, but they are rebuilding their program, or their website. I will be writing more once they are up and running and more stable.

I will also be writing more about Internet Coaches and coaching programs again, soon.

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Free Internet Coaches at WomVegas

I felt that the title for this post was appropriate since I am finding free internet coaches at WomVegas. There is more than that, and I believe this site should really get to be quite popular. The main reason is that you can join for free and do and learn quite a lot there without having a paid membership.

As evidenced below, even the banners are fun!



There are several internet marketers there who are willing to share their experience with you in their convention rooms. It is great to read through their years of experience and things they have to share. It is good internet coaching from people who use what they are talking about each and every day.

Perhaps you are an internet coach, too, but you are hidden away. Maybe you are making money online, and have things to share. Please share it with us. We are waiting to hear from you in a friendly non-intimidating environment.

Here is the latest news from Phil S. His updates are worth taking the time to read. Thanks Phil for permission to re-post this.

Timothy L. Drobnick Sr. Starts His Own Unique Social Network

by Phil Staudt
July 7, 2010

Many social networking websites these days are springing up, because proprietors want to cash in on this huge growing market, and many websites are copying the styles of other social network websites, in order to get their piece of the future potential pie in the world of social networking. However, in the case of Timothy L. Drobnick Sr., he has built his own social network, womvegas.com, because for the past 15 years he has been showing people how to promote their business on the Internet, and part of what he does is to show online entrepreneurs how to use social networks for marketing and business promotions, but the social networking websites are constantly changing their rules and fees and formats like diapers. For that reason, Mr. Drobnick decided to start his own social networking website, in his own unique way, with the goal of making his social network website friendly for businesses, entrepreneurs, artists and bands, contractors, retail stores, online stores and services, and marketing professionals. At the same time, WomVegas.com is designed to be a fun website for non-marketers, and a good way to meet real people online and socialize in the hundreds of chat rooms.

Why Another Social Network Website?

Mr. Drobnick states “as the owner of VIP Wealth Club, I have been teaching people how to use blogs and social networks to promote any business. However, in trying to keep up with social networking websites, and looking how they are controlled, and how they are constantly changing their rules and formats and fees all the time, I was having difficulty accurately telling people how to use social media marketing to promote their businesses effectively. (The members in VIP Wealth Club pay $19 a month and are entrepreneurs and marketers, not large corporations like Walmart or Ford.) So, I decided I had to create my own viable and popular social networking website, so that I could tell entrepreneurs how to use a social network that I control and I know they can rely on for marketing their products and services, that is both a marketing friendly social network and a website that appeals to both marketers and non-marketers.”

In addition, Mr. Drobnick says “I help people get their blog articles found on blogsearch.google.com and other blog-listing websites, but I am always having to change my recommendations and advice, because the websites that are supposed to help people find blog articles, are constantly changing their parameters and standards for listing blogs and blog articles, if they even stay in business. And the social networking sites keep going back and forth from pro-marketing to anti-marketing. They can’t make up their minds! And then, when a small business owner or marketing professional finally finds a way to promote their products or services with social networking, the big wigs running the social network websites decide to change everything. It can be very frustrating and confusing.”

Timothy L. Drobnick Sr. has built and operated many websites and online businesses over the past 15 years. He says “I have studied SEO strategies from the best SEO experts, and as soon as I found something that was working well for my websites, then Google or yahoo, or some other search engine that was sending me the most traffic, all of the sudden would give me lousy rankings for no reason at all. Maybe I did not grease the right wheels or have the right college pals, but counting on SEO to send the majority of traffic to a website, is not a good idea for small business owners like me.”

Social Network Websites and Marketers

“Recently,” according to Mr. Drobnick, “the social network websites have enjoyed good rankings on search engines, and that is why I have been encouraging my students and followers to get on board, and have an online presence on Twitter and Facebook and Friendfeed and Ning and Myspace and other social websites. But I get tired of having to go back and re-tape my learning videos and change what I recommend, because the rules and formats change so much and so often. So I realized, that by building and controlling my own social network, which various types of businesses and marketing individuals can use to promote themselves online, I can confidently tell the 50,000+ members of my marketing websites, and the rest of my students and affiliates at VIP Wealth Club, how to use one social networking website that I know will not go against them.”

Timothy L. Drobnick Sr. recently started womvegas.com, his social networking website, by attracting an army of Internet marketers and online proprietors, who are always looking for a good solid way to make money online and have residual income, and he is offering them commissions for referring new members and customers. Many popular social networks shun these success-oriented entrepreneur-minded marketers, and try to come up with ways to discourage them from using their social network. (Although, recently they have been scrambling to figure out how to cash in on them, with fees and ad deals, because they have learned that they need marketers. DUH!) Timothy L. Drobnick Sr. is counting on his marketing affiliates to get the word out about his new marketing friendly social network to small businesses and promoters throughout the world, including retail businesses and service businesses and local establishments, which operate online or off-line.

Womvegas.com has a single tier affiliate program for free members who want to earn commissions and residual income as free affiliates, and womvegas.com also has an MLM marketing program for upgraded members, who want to be marketing affiliates. There is no pressure at all for any members to be affiliates or do any marketing or promoting, and Mr. Drobnick plans on 95% of the members using the womvegas.com as free members to meet people and socialize online. Many of the chat rooms have strict rules against advertising or promoting in the chat area.

Upgraded members get their own chat room(s) where they make the rules for the room, and in those member-controlled chat rooms, other womvegas.com members have to request and be approved to post in the room by the upgraded member of that room.

Mr. Drobnick has also created a totally innovative way in womvegas.com to allow all the members of womvegas.com, both free or upgraded, to post text ads throughout his website, and the way that is done is by using activity points they can earn by playing games and visiting and “signing the guestbook” at certain pages on womvegas.com. The ads on the website can be placed by using points to bid in the text ad auction. That is part of what makes womvegas popular and fun, at the same time as it gives businesses and marketers a way to advertise online.

Womvegas.com is still new, and there are still glitches, and some of the features and functions could be more user-friendly, but for only having been launched less than a month ago, it is enjoying extremely high traffic and is already popular with people from around the world. According Timothy L. Drobnick Sr., he has taken his 40 years of sales and business experience, and combined it with his 15 years experience as a full time Internet marketer and trainer, and created his best enterprise so far, and has built this one to last for a very long time.

By Phil Staudt
July 7, 2010

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Ozine Online Magazine Review

I am taking a break from my 6th installment for my internet coaches series to have a little diversion.
I am regrouping on the series, and am not sure where it will go after the next post. However this could be part of the internet coaches and mentoring series since I am giving quite a lot of information about that, too.

There are some new business opportunities and products out there on the net, that I will most likely be doing some reviews on along with some posts on the “how to” areas. I did find something that is really neat over the weekend and have to share it with you. Please let me know when you set up your Ozine.

Image of Jack Humphrey from Twitter
Image of Jack Humphrey


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Create Your OpenZine

This is the cover to my first Ozine. I am a newbie there, so it might take a while for me to figure it all out.
However it looks like it is not going to be that difficult to use Ozines.

The first thing you do is set up your account. It is an easy process if you have set up any other Social type accounts online. The best part is that it is free, and we all like FREE! You can add images, and videos, and as much text as you want. Right now I am still on the basic stages. I wanted to rush into things without watching the tutorials. Now I will probably go back and do that. I was just so excited to see how long it would take to get something up and published so I could share it with my blog readers.

I created my first Ozine after finding one on Jack Humphrey’s website.
I saw his and knew I wanted to create one, although his looks way more professional than mine.
He is so good at what he does.

Here is the link to Jack’s Ozine
I wonder where he finds all his time to get something like this set up?

Jack’s Ozine is all about Link Building. It is something that I would bet that 90% of the readers of this blog are interested in. I know articles like that get my attention all the time.

If you have not discovered Friday Traffic Report yet, I am giving you the link. You can listen in on Friday’s at 2p.m. Eastern on Blog Talk Radio http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Jack-Humphrey I have not used Jack Humphrey as a paid coach (yet), but I do learn a whole lot from his blogs, and interviews. He shares a whole lot with his readers. This is another way that you can avoid the cost of internet coaching and mentoring. However this is a way that takes a little bit longer than paying for one on one or small group coaching sessions.

However when you follow people like Jack Humphrey, it is time well spent. I would much rather spend time learning than watching the nightly news.

Here is the direct link to his great visit with Ozine creators.
http://www.jackhumphrey.com/fridaytrafficreport/webside-chat-with-openzine-creators/

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To pay or not to pay that is the question.  The thing that we have to face in the world of business is that we will find more free advice then we could ever want.  However, how good is that free advice?  Who are you getting that free advice from?  Is the free advice leading you in the right direction or stealing your dream?

When you choose to set up shop on the internet, you are entering a territory that is still fairly new to a lot of people.  Either that or people might have set out wanting to make some extra money from the internet but have no clue as to what it took to get something going.

When I started on the internet it was with a Geocities free website and I had no idea what web hosting was or FTP (don’t they send flowers?), or that people actually sold stuff from their website.  Most of the websites around had guest books that I would sign and start a relationship with the web owner that way.  I would leave comments on their sites and tell them that I wanted to make a site, too, but my attempts were not going well.

I met two helpful people that way.  Two out of several replied.  They both helped me.  They showed me what tables were and taught me a little about using search engines to find more resources, such as free graphics.  I had so much to learn and found that working on my websites was a lot more fun than watching television, or sleeping.

Although I got the free help I needed then, I did not know how people could make any money from their sites.  I thought you had to be someone special to do that.  I found commission junction and I am not even sure how I found them.  I could not even understand them, or how to use them.

I read help menus and learned about source codes.  I still did not know a thing about keywords.  I started buying what few ebooks there were out there at the time.  It seemed that everyone who was writing them then was making 40K a month or something like that and they would show me how when I bought their book.  WRONG!

I found Joe Vitale and a group of people he seemed fond of at the time.  It also seemed that Joe was endorsing everything around back then.  I later found out that sometimes he got paid or a cut of the sales for doing those endorsements.  I was trying to get mentored from them, but every letter seemed like a sales letter.  Just one more course.  EEKS.

Having an internet coach should not be like going to a Chiropractor.  It should not be something you have to continue for the rest of your life.  I believe in having coaching though, so I will probably always continue my education, but it will have to be on my terms.

My advice is to get to know who you are being coached from.  It seems that lately the major players have set up farmed out coaching from one program or another.  While you will learn something from this coaching, it is usually very very expensive and they want you to pay it all up front using a credit card.

When you hear that, it is best to decline that offer.  Most of the time they want to set up an interview with you to find out if you are right for their program.  You have to really want to do this to pay thousands of dollars for this.  The courses are tax deductable and most guarantee that you will be making money in the first month.  Well it is not a written guarantee.  However their sales teams are really good at making you feel like you are one of the chosen, select few who your interviewer feels is worthy enough to take their course from an internet coach.

It is still cheaper than a college education that does not guarantee you a job, or to keep training you until you get one.  Most coaching programs will guarantee to keep your access to the phone help line and to the libraries until you make your investment back.

It is my opinion that you can join a few good groups and get mentored along the way without a huge outlay of cash up front.  It has taken me years to find some of these groups.  They do have monthly fees, but there is nothing to hold you there longer than you want to stay.

Read their websites and write to them.  When you are looking for internet coaches make sure that they are active in their program, not just the name that is used to draw you into the program.

  • Do they personally hold coaching sessions?
  • Do they answer your emails?
  • How easy are they to contact?

Those are important questions that  you want to know the answers to before you get started.  Always check the support for programs before you join them.  If someone wants you to make an on the spot decision to join their program, ask for a test drive first.  Would you spend $5000 on a used car without taking it for a test drive or to your mechanic to check out?

In my next post in this series I will give you my recommendations for programs where you can start your road to internet success with some great help.  Some of you reading this blog already use the same systems that I do.

However I have one or two that maybe you do not use, so be sure to look for my next post on this topic.  It will probably be next week since I might be visiting parents over the weekend.

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I debated on whether or not to include this in my series on Internet Coaches, but I decided to include it because this is an email I just received from, The Mentors Club.  I recently joined The Mentors Club, because I am finding it more and more difficult to stay on the positive track when surround with people who are not positive.  Sometimes no matter how hard we try, we find that life puts us in close proximity with people who are not benefitting us as far as our positive growth goes.

Does this ever happen to you?  How do you handle adversity?  Should we look for the following traits in more people that we spend a lot of our time with?

The following is a section from the book Think and Grow Rich that I keep writing about in this blog.  Isn’t is amazing how your thoughts do get validated this way?  I have been looking over my copy since I uploaded it to this blog, and now I get an email with some great quotes from it from the same book and they tie into this series. Continue reading

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Questions to Consider

  • How do you stay on track and positive?
  • Do you find more positive than negative thoughts surrounding your day?
  • How many hours do you spend listening to news or televison that leaves negative messages?
  • Is the music you listen to uplifting, or does it have negative connotations?
  • Do you hold negative thoughts captive?

Perhaps these questions do not seem remotely connected to internet coaching.  Maybe they seem like something that can tie into another positive coaching session or maybe even a visit to a counselor or a psychiatrist.  However these are  questions you should be asking yourself to determine where you are in your present situation, and to help chart your path to a new destination.

Do all successful people start out that way?  I do not know if they all do, but my guess would be that few successful people get there on their first try.  Many of the people who are considered successful by the world’s standards face several obsticles in their lives.

The main difference is that they never gave up no matter what.  I could go into another series on people who lost it all and hit bottom to end up some of the best known people in history.  Napoleon Hill’s book, Think and Grow Rich (still worth reading in my opinion, and I might offer that as a download later on this series), looks at several of the successful people in business, and what they did to get there.

That is the first place I heard of mastermind groups.  That was when I was either in high school or fresh out of high school.  This whole concept was so far above me.  However I knew I needed to find a mastermind group.  Whether or not I knew what I was doing, I did find people I needed to succeed, but at that time my goal was not having an internet coach.  My goal was to get one trophy, just one, for surfing.  I never had a trophy for anything in my life, so that seemed like something I would like to do.

I was pretty terrible at surfing then, too.  Before I go on a total different course with this posting, I should focus on how one idea can change a life.  I read a book that was totally different than anything I was taught in high school.  I never saw that book on a “reading list” in college either, and I was a Business Major.

However, reading Think and Grow Rich was probably the best time I ever spent as far as return on time investment.  It taught me that you never give up.  You focus on what your goals are.  It is ok to have different goals or to change your path, but if you apply the principles in the book, you will find that you can attract the people who can help you to reach your goals.

The things we think about today pave what we get in the future.  Write down what you want to achieve.  I have sayings and goals on my walls in my office.  They are tacked on there.  That is one of the benefits of having your own office.  One of the things I put up there is this, ” I am attracting successful people!”

I even pray, “Thank you God, for the people you are bringing into my life who can influence me in a positive way and help me to reach my goals.”  This helps.  I meet people who I never would have imagined I would meet and I learn from them.

Not all coaches have to be someone you pay to learn from.  Be open to the types of people you are attracting.  You will find that as you change, the types of people that you attract will also start changing.

If you want to succeed on the internet, then you want to eventually have some internet coaches.  However, if your internet success is slow (and for most people it is), and you feel that you are not in the place that you want to be, it is time to think about how you got there.

Perhaps your coaching needs to start out by changing how you think.  Changing our mindset and our bad self talk and thinking about our self can ruin anything that we learn from our internet coach.  So take a look at the questions at the start of this posting and see if there is something that needs to be changed.

Start thinking more positively today.

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My Series On Internet Coaches~1

You might think this post is intended for internet newbies only. However it is intended for anyone conducting business on the internet. I wonder how many people use some form of internet coaching. I have used internet coaches during my stay on the internet and they have provided valuable information to me, and help along the way. I have made mistakes in choosing a coach, but I feel a the time I made the best decisions possible.

For this reason I am going to be spending time in this month, June, to write about internet coaches. The good and the bad of internet coaches will be discussed along with an opportunity for the readers to comment with their honest opinions. I know several people who have used coaches.

I have gone from student to internet coach. I can add my own perspective as a coach to what I write. This might be eye opening for some of you, and it might be ho hum business as usual for others.

First of all the main thing you want to do is make sure that the coach you are going to use does have a presence of some sort on the internet. Maybe they are not one of the gurus who you get emails from offering to sell you something every day. Those are not the best coaches out there. Those are salesmen and salesladies offering you an unending list of e-books and DVDs or CDs or online videos that show some technique.

When you are looking for a coach you want someone who will interact with you live. Live interaction either by telephone, or a conference room, or an online messenger service. Email interaction is great, too. There are several services out there that offer great support through email, and internet coaches do that, too.

Most coaching groups do not have an on site live chat person available 24/7. That is just too much to hope for. Remember they do not dedicate their entire day to helping individual clients for the most part. Most coaches work their own businesses too, or are part time coaches and work another job along with it.

Finally to close off this segment, I want to add, that no matter what level you are at in your online business, you should have some sort of Mastermind group as recommended in the book, Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. If you are just starting out and do not have your mastermind group yet, then I hope this series will give you some insight into getting started and getting the help you need via internet coaches so that you can find your mastermind groups.

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